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Post by Darius on May 20, 2005 20:21:13 GMT -5
So, Bush is planning to veto a bill that would expand stem cell reserach. He said that he would veto any bill that promoted "destroying life to save life". And anti-abortion activists are against the bill as well.
Here's the thing. The majority of the embryos that would be used for research would otherwise be literally thrown out. Not even in a figurative way. The embryos would be put into a garbage can, then in a dumpster, then in a land-fill. Yet Bush believes that this is "destroying life" - that it is morally superior to have an embryo in the garbage with banana peels and used tissues than saving lives.
Even Republicans are split on this issue. If anyone out there agrees with Bush and some religious leaders on this issue, can you please try to explain it because I seriously do not understand.
I wish I had more time on this right now, but I have to leave soon.
Darius
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Katie
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Post by Katie on May 20, 2005 22:24:06 GMT -5
I can't explain that, but I will add something else about this fight that has me seething:
Opponents say taxpayers should not be forced to pay for such research when large numbers of them believe that the resulting destruction of the embryo is immoral.
Excuse me? Some taxpayers actually get a choice about what their dollars are used for??? OK, so I would much rather mine be used for legitimate medical research using discarded embryos than blowing up innocent civilians, putting our own troops in harm's way, and paying off Haliburton. I call that highly immoral, among other things. Katie
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Post by Noah on May 20, 2005 23:10:04 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Hwang Woo-suk of Seoul National University has successfully cloned human embryos, using stem cells extracted from embryos he created using the DNA of sick and injured patients. I'm told there was a time when America led the world in scientific advancement, before it was seized by an administration determined to revive the Dark Ages.
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Post by Darius on May 21, 2005 10:59:02 GMT -5
The saving grace is that, from what I can tell, Congress may yet be able to overturn the veto. Both sides have claimed that they have enough votes. So, we'll see.
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Post by Noah on May 22, 2005 22:25:49 GMT -5
Here's another important article about it, from the Washington Post. Bush is likely to veto something which has broad support among moderate Republicans. This is about his supposed need to throw the evangelicals a bone. They feel that they got him into office. They expected him to repay them by criminalizing gay marriage, among other things, which he hasn't managed to do. They lost the battle over Terri Schiavo. But in the effort to appease fringe religious fanatics, Bush is sacrificing more than medical advancement; he's sacrificing the goodwill of half his party. Because of the current judicial appointment fracas, Bush needs that goodwill, and a veto might really hurt him. Small comfort for everyone with Alzheimer's, diabetes, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, etc.
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Post by koyaanisqatsi on Jun 1, 2005 15:24:06 GMT -5
Today's AP article on stem cell research (gleaned from Radio News America) www.radionewsamerica.com/index.php?blog=2&p=2710&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more2710-Snip- Cloning Pioneer Envisions Stem Cell Bank South Korean cloning pioneer Hwang Woo-suk said Wednesday he plans to open a stem cell bank by the end of the year to help speed up the quest to grow replacement tissue to treat diseases. The bank would consolidate current stem cell lines in one research location. To treat a patient, researchers would look for a cell line that provides a close match to a patient's immune system, Hwang said in an interview with The Associated Press. It would resemble the process now used in finding donors for organ transplants. (more at link)
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